How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby Stangc427 - November 12th, 2015, 3:03 pm

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Stangc427 wrote:Hi I'm new to the forum and looking for a little help. I love your write up and Im neck deep in the same repair.

Everything went smooth until the wrist pins walked out of the bores and destroyed the block on my fresh rebuild. Machine shop (who was very reputeable mind you) threw up there hands and offered me a kind hearted Im sorry. All four Pins walked out in the same direction and gouged all four cylinders. This happened in less then 100 miles!

Anyway, Im back to square one and Escape blocks/motors are crazy expensive plus Im in for a lot of money in parts already. What all would it take to use a Fusion 2.3? You mentioned staying away from VVT versions but I think they all were. Does an intake came swap from my Escape cure it or would that entail and entire head swap, which Im not opposed to. I just need a quick and reasonable solution for a new bottom end. Hind sight being 20/20 I would have gone with a reman motor for $2500 and warranty. Thanks


Can you just find a used one from a wrecked escape/tribute/mar with no engine damage?


Anything I have found even with high miles for the Esc/Tri/Mar is $1500 or more. Ive tried 5 salvage yards local and there prices are the same. Craigslist was the same story. None of the salvage yards will sell me the block or shortblock only either. If I didnt have a whole pile of brand new 2.3 parts that I cant return I would go 2.0 swap in a heart beat. I would even buy an entire car for the right price and part it out minus the motor to get myself back to even.
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby Sparki - April 28th, 2016, 12:30 am

Thanks for the great write up and technical info. I was ready to junk my 06' when the engine went south and I started looking at the prices of used engines , then I read about the possibility of doing a 2.0 swap and your article convinced me to go for it. Well so far so good and albeit time consuming no real hang ups until now. Hopefully you can shed some light on this for me. I literally have everything removed and the engine is on the hoist and ready to lift out but I have 1 line that I cannot for the life of me figure out how to release. Its the line (not sure if it's fuel or vacuum related) but it goes from the side of the throttle body down around the end of the motor and back to the firewall where it attaches to some sort of manifold or valve. I see in your picture of your old motor removed it shows that particular line being the largest that is draped up across the valve cover. It appears that you must have removed it from the Firewall end. I am stumped as to what it takes to free this line from that point, it doesn't appear to be a normal slide lock type of fuel or A/C line release....any help you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance ....
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby Lisa05062 - August 31st, 2016, 1:01 am

I have a 2008 ford escape with the 2.3 motor in. We bought a used engine, which was suppose to be out of a escape. After we got it installed. We found out it is out of a fusion. Is there anyway we can make this engine work? I am not sure if its the vvt motor or not. I wasnt sure if we changed the heads around if that would work? The engine runs well, but there is a light on for the camshaft sensor. Si it will not pass emisions. Thank you.
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby hermosillo007 - January 2nd, 2017, 1:56 pm

Hello
I'm new here in the Forum, and I looking for some help.
I have a Tribute 2008 with bad 2.3l engine, since I read your swap in Your Escape, I like the idea to swap in my Tribute.
Any advice about the best year in a 2.0l engine that fits the 2008 Tribute 2.3l I have?

Thanks
Joe
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby ifixthings - April 16th, 2017, 1:18 am

Be better off with a 2.5 swap instead. We do this a lot on the Mazdas. In fact we do it so much that I developed and sell an installation kit for them.
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby turtleescape - May 31st, 2017, 8:35 am

I have a 2005 Escape with a 2.3l, I recently picked this car up for a family member to learn to drive with. I bought the car as-is with no compression ( planning on doing an engine swap )

I think I am going to do the 2.0l swap just due to the cost and availability of the 2.0l engines. My question is Dark_Passenger stated that 2003-2007 engines would make the best donor engines. When I called the junk yard they said that 2003 and 2004 2.0l are interchangeable, 2005 2.0l is only compatible with 2005, and 2006 and 2007 are interchangeable.

Does anyone know what the difference between the years of 2.0l are? I want to get something that will work.

Also, has anyone successfully installed any of the newer 2.0l Focus engines? The 2011-2014 are very affordable with low miles.

Thanks in advance for any help, Bob
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby Tyleraxis88 - May 31st, 2017, 10:10 am

The 2.0 from the 01-04 is a zetec engine and uses a different wiring harness than the duratec line of 4 cylinders and it would not be a good route to take. I would get either the 2.0 or a 2.5 duratec. Both swap with ease.
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby turtleescape - June 9th, 2017, 8:11 am

ifixthings wrote:Be better off with a 2.5 swap instead. We do this a lot on the Mazdas. In fact we do it so much that I developed and sell an installation kit for them.


Do you have a link to the installation kit?
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby Tyleraxis88 - June 9th, 2017, 2:56 pm

turtleescape wrote:
ifixthings wrote:Be better off with a 2.5 swap instead. We do this a lot on the Mazdas. In fact we do it so much that I developed and sell an installation kit for them.


Do you have a link to the installation kit?



I have done a 2.5 swap on my escape. Added alot of aftermarket performance parts and there is a post or two on here on how to.

Again, the pre 05 2.0 will not work with the wiring harness of the duratec engine. The Escape with the 2.3 is already underpowered going smaller will make it worse.
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Re: How To: 2005-2008 Engine Swap 2.3L to 2.0L

Postby turtleescape - June 10th, 2017, 7:43 am

Tyleraxis88 wrote:
turtleescape wrote:
ifixthings wrote:Be better off with a 2.5 swap instead. We do this a lot on the Mazdas. In fact we do it so much that I developed and sell an installation kit for them.


Do you have a link to the installation kit?



I have done a 2.5 swap on my escape. Added alot of aftermarket performance parts and there is a post or two on here on how to.

Again, the pre 05 2.0 will not work with the wiring harness of the duratec engine. The Escape with the 2.3 is already underpowered going smaller will make it worse.


Thank you for the advice. I think I am going to go the direction of the 2.5l. I was a little hesitant to go with the 2.5l because of the cam swap. My cam has a fixed timing lobe and not a removable gear (like the Mazdas do). So, I would have to reuse my old high mileage intake cam.

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